Greywarden > As stated on my previous post, the source for this ridiculous Meme is found here: https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1331942-virgin-vs-chad.

#1. The Chad wants Corporations to be Overthrown.

Answer: Corporations are State Controlled Socialist Organizations. The Chad seems to be against State controlled monopolies (such as Corporations), which Marx himself was in favor of.

#2. The Chad does not believe in Hierarchies according to the Marxist author.

Answer: If this were actually true that the Chad does not believe in hierarchies, then that would mean the Chad is not a Communist, but an Anarcho Capitalist. Anarcho Communism is an Oxymoron as you cannot have Anarchism which is Anti-Government and Communism Which is Pro State Simultaneously. Simply put, the author of this Meme does not know what he is talking about.

#3. The Chad Covers his face because his actions are all that matters, not his identity according to the Marxist Author.

Response: Well, we have seen many Obedient Socialist Statist Covering their faces per the orders of the Public Sector State Hierarchy.

#4. The Chad Believes in the Liberation of Women from oppressive gender roles according to the Marxist author.

Answer: Oppressive Gender Roles can only play out in an economy that is collectively owned or controlled. Such as male born transgender individuals in women sports ect. This right there classifies as oppressive gender roles, and this is just one example of the Stupidities Marxist are pushing for. Traditional Gender Roles are not at all oppressive. Traditional Gender Roles are actual facts and correlate properly with the individual's gender.

#5. The Chad comes from poverty and has experienced oppression

Answer: Not to many victims of oppression come out of poverty by using oppression as an excuse for not being able to come out of oppression. In fact, the fact that the Chad comes out of oppression in the first place is because he isn't even really oppressed. If he were oppressed, and he had no opportunities to grow because of his gender, race or whatever. He would never come out of oppression nor poverty because the system is rigged against him.

#6. The Chad wants everything Publicized according to the Marxist author.

Answer: And there you have it ladies and gentlemen. The author just spilled out the beans with the above. If the Chad really is an Anarchist, then he wouldn't want everything publicized as that only empowers the Public Sector Hierarchy. The Marxist said in point #2 of his ridiculous Meme, that the Chad does not believe in Hierarchies. This right here is a contradiction, as Public Sector Control of the means of production is Socialism, and by definition it is Hierarchical, and is completely unrelated to Anarchism.

#7. The Chad wants money abolished according to the Marxist author.

Answer: Money's Abolishment is exactly what the Public Sector State Hierarchy wants in order to control the Private Individual. So, the Chad is not exactly against Hierarchies now is he? He is not a real Anarchist, but only one in name i guess.

#8. The Chad could easily get laid if he wanted to, but chooses to fight Capitalism and Fascism according to the Marxist author.

Answer: The Chad only fights Capitalism because he is against the individual, and does indeed believe in Hierarchies. This is the Chad's real problem with Capitalism. Fascism is not another word for Capitalism as the Marxist Pseudo Definiton says. Fascism is Syndicalism with a Philosophy of Actualism. Fascism is Trade Unionism and it is a complete opposite of Capitalism.

#9. I skipped a few of them because I've already addressed similar stupidities.

On this one the Chad says property is theft.

Answer: This doesn't make much sense. I do understand if the Marxist is trying to say that Private Property Rights is theft, as the Marxist do believe that the Government should have ownership of all properties, not the individual. So much for not believing in Hierarchies SMH.

#10. The Chad ignored Bitcoin because its another Capitalist ploy.

Answer: Good for the Marxist. I am glad the Crypto Market is a Capitalist Market and close to impossible to control. I am glad the Public State Hierarchies of the World cannot control it. I am glad the Crypto Market is an enemy of Socialism, for Socialism is an enemy of the Individual, and individuals do exist and not to be blamed by association for the crimes of another individual just because he/she belongs to the same ethnic group as the criminal.

Today i will be exposing the Virgin Anarcho Capitalist VS the Chad Anarcho Communist Meme here: https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1331942-virgin-vs-chad.

Lets start with the Virgin Anarcho Capitalist.

#1. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist wants Corporations deregulated according to the Marxist that wrote this.

Answer: Corporations are Organs of the state and are collectively owned not individually owned. Corporations are Syndicates, and as I've mentioned before the Soviet Union called them Syndicates and the Italian Fascist called their Syndicates Corporations. Corporations are Marxist Fascist Socialist Organization. They have nothing at all to do with Capitalism nor a free market.

#2. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist comes from an incredibly wealthy family according to the Marxist that wrote this.

Answer: I would actually argue that Those of the Public Sector State Hierarchy Controlling the means of production are the extremely wealthy socialist group. There aren't to many rich Capitalist as those of the Private Sector are having their wealth siphoned away by the State. But not only that, they are also having their businesses crushed by the State and considered none essential as what happened with the Covid lie. The State, through the Covid lie attempted to crush competition, thus they attempted to crush Capitalism which is private individual control of his/her own economy. Through Taxations our wealth is being redistributed to the Giant Corporations which are funded by the State giving these Corporation a huge advantage over Private Individually owned businesses. With all of the Government funding Corporations receive, they have no problem paying employees 20 dollars per hour minimum wage. Price control and minimum wage only affect the small privately owned businesses, not the Giants the Public Sector State Hierarchy supports.

#3. The Anarcho Capitalist Virgin always wears suits with bow ties according to the Marxist that wrote this.

Answer: Actually, it is the Socialist thugs of the Mainstream Media and those that have collective shareholder ownership of the of the means of production in the Stock Exchange Socialist Market who wear suits with bow ties.

#4. According to this Marxist, the Anarcho Capitalist Virgin is a big believer in Traditionalist gender roles.

Answer: You don't have to be a Capitalist to be a Traditionalist in Gender Roles. The differences is when one has individual control of his/her own economy, He/She doesn't care about controlling anybody else's life. Individual control of your own economy is freedom. I would however argue that it is Socialism that brings about the crisis and wars amongst the genders putting males against females and females against males, Whites against Blacks and Blacks against Whites, Employers against Workers and Workers against their Employers, Aryan Germans against Jews and Jews against Germans. All of these crisis are caused by collective control of the means of production, not private individual control of the means of production.

#5. The Anarcho Virgin Capitalist according to the Marxist author, Thinks the 50's and 60's America were the best.

Response: I have no idea how this belief defines someone as Capitalist

#6. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist somehow believes in both individualism and tribulism.

Answer: The above is Oxymoronic, as you cannot have both Invidualism and Tribulism. This contradiction is explicitly evident in Hitler's writings, who was a Socialist by the way. Hitler says in Mein Kampf that National Socialism also promotes individual worth.. Hitler however could never solve the contradiction this brought about. As if he really promoted individual worth as he said, then there was no way he could Nationalize the Masses or Socialize the people as he also said he would do. If there was individual worth, then the Germans couldn't be working for the betterment of their race, and there was no way for Hitler to Socialize the Aryan Race, as they would be competing with each other. Capitalism is strictly about the Private Individual and has nothing to do with groups or tribes who's effort is to strip the individual of his individuality. It is Socialism who promotes Tribalism and Collectivism. What the Marxist that created this Meme has proven is that the Virgin Anarcho Capitalist is actually a Socialist. I would however agree that he is not a Marxist Socialist. But by definiton he is a Socialist!

#7. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist according to the Marxist that created this Meme, is scared of black and brown people and wants to create his own ethnostate.

Answer: As we already know that it is collective control of the means of production that brings about the clash between racial groups (Race Socialism), not individual control of the means of production. It is therefore easy to decipher that the Marxist author of this trash Meme is lying. Coupled with the fact that the Virgin Anarcho Capitalist wants a (White Enthnostate), which proves he is not a Capitalist but a Socialist, as State Control of the Economy is Socialism. Capitalism is Anti-State. Capitalism is the Antithesis of Socialism and therefore cannot be Socialism at the same time. There is no State in an economy that is controlled by individuals.

#8. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist thinks Liberals are Left according to the Marxist Author.

Answer: Actually this is more proof that the Virgin Anarcho Capitalist is actually a leftist Socialist, very possibly a National Socialist. Classic Liberals are on the Right for the most part and are libertarians.

#9. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist is a useful idiot to Fascists according to the Marxist author.

Answer: The author doesn't even understand the definiton of Fascism and is resorting to pseudo definitons as is common with Collectivist, that is, if the author even knows a pseudo definiton to the Term Fascist at all. As is common with most Marxist Fascist, they can't even define what Fascism is. Or else, they would understand that they are indeed the Fascist Trade Unionist. As Fascism in its simplist definition is Trade Unionism. The Soviet Union was Marxist Fascist. It is literally in the name, Soviet Union. Italian Fascism was Trade Unionism. All you have to do is read the writings of Gentile the creator of Fascism and Mussolini. They make explicitly clear what Fascism is, and what their political ideology was, which is contrary to what Marxist Historians and Sympathizers on Wikipedia are saying.

#10. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist has no praxis, just whines about liberals on the internet.

Response: This sounds more like a National Socialist. Classic Liberals are on the Right not the Left.

Meaning of classic liberalism: Classical liberalism is a political tradition and a branch of liberalism that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics; civil liberties under the rule of law with special emphasis on individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech.

#11. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist uses Statist and Collectivist as insults.

Answer: As i have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist according to how this Marxist describes him, is not an Anarcho Capitalist but a Utopian Socialist. He is indeed a collectivist no different than the Marxists and is living in a world of Contradictions and pseudo definition of terms identically to the Marxist.

#12. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist believes in Hierarchies according to the Marxist author.

Answer: And Hierarchies are Public not Private. The Marxist has literally spelled out here that the Virgin Anarcho Capitalist is really a Socialist. You can't have a Hierarchy when every individual is fending for themselves. Only collectivism brings about Hierarchies.

#13. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist says Richard Spencer's ideas could work according to the Marxist author.

Answer: Richard Spencer is a leftist Race Socialist lol. Richard Spencer is so on the left that he voted for Biden. He made his voting registration public on twitter for everyone to see.

#14. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist Invested in Bitcoin according to the Marxist Author.

Answer: Many Socialists are invested in Bitcoin as well. I don't see how this indicates that all who invest in Bitcoin must be Capitalist.

#15. The Virgin Anarcho Capitalist believes in White Genocide according to the Marxist author.

Answer: The reason why the Virgin Anarcho Capitalist believes in White Genocide is because he is a Socialist lol.

Done with the Virgin Anarcho Capitalist who should actually be renamed the Virgin National Socialist instead.

Later on when i have more time, i will refute the Chad Anarcho Communist part of the Meme as well.

I will start with an introduction. My parents are of Jewish Ancestry. My Dad is specifically of mostly Ashkenazi Jewish Descent. My dad taught me that Socialism was a good thing, and that Capitalism was the reason for Tyranny, Oppression, divisiveness and greed. My dad defended Countries such as Cuba and Venezuela, and opposed the U.S for intervening in their Affairs. My dad always painted the U.S as a greedy evil Capitalist Country that coerced and sanctioned other Countries that weren't doing its bidding.

So, you can imagine. Just the Mention of right leaning Conservatism to me was repugnant. I could never understand why Conservatives cared not about the poor, yet professed a Christian faith. I was also taught that Jesus was a Socialist. Bear in mind however, that i did not know the real definition of Socialism. The only definition i knew was the watered down pseudo definition taught by State Controlled entities such as Public Schools and what my father taught me.

I was taught Hitler was an example of NEO Liberailism, and that he privatized the Industries and crushed the Trade Unions, which is a real distortion of the actual facts. My wife is also of Ashkenazi Jewish descent. People however, were persecuted in Moldova because of their Jewish heritage. So, her family needed to keep that fact silenced in order to survive. My wife experienced real socialism first hand. My wife knew what a disaster leftist ideology is.

When my wife was first introduced to me by a friend. The whole purpose of us meeting was to study the Torah, and because i had sat at Yeshivot, know hermaneutics ect, was the reason as to why my wife wanted to meet me and why she wanted to study with me. Little did i know that i had no understanding of the true definiton of my political ideology.

Although i did conquer her misconceptions and misunderstandings of the bible, and offered irrefutable evidence and context from the Hebrew and other sources. I was not very effective when it came to politics. When she would tell me about the Socialism she lived through. I would tell her that it wasn't real Socialism, and would even tell her that her country was right leaning and conservative, and that is why only a few in her country were extremely rich, and the rest of the population was extremelly poor.

It took me years before i finally opened my eyes, decided to investigate and challenge my ideology. I was a green partier and thought we were fighting for people's civil rights and were against the Central bankers and Government. I was truly deceived in believing that Socialism was a fight against tyranny, and that the revolution was an act of righteousness. My dad was a huge proponent of Franklin D. Roosevelt. I was taught that FDR did great things, such as levi high taxations for the rich. In fact, my dad praised FDR's 96% tax on the rich. Mussolini considered FDR a Fascist like him, and FDR was enamoured by Italian Fascism, which made no sense to me, as being a proponent of the left, Fascism was repugnant to me.

The reality really was that my ideology was Fascist, i was just completely in the dark about it. I was taught that Government controlled Trade Unions were good and were there to defend my rights. Fascism by definiton is Trade Unionism. All of those people blaming right leaning Conservatives of being Fascist on one hand, and on the other they are supporting the Unions are by definiton the Fascist. Mussolini was an Anarcho Syndiclist, which is an oxymoron, but lets just role with it. Syndicates are Trade Unions. The Difference is that the Italians called them Corporations and the Soviets called them Syndicates. Hence, Syndicalism is Trade Unionism, and Trade Unionism is Fascism. So, when the Marxist call you a Fascist for being on the right. Make them aware that by definition, they are the Syndicalist and therefore they are the Fascist. None of these Marxist even know what they are saying when they call people Fascist. None of them can even define fascism.

All of that being said. I am now ready to begin on explaining the Title of my post which is Holocaust VS National Socialism, and Holocaust VS Marxism.

I owe a lot of the Knowledge I've acquired to Tik who has indepth Documentaries Explaining the differences between Public and Private, Socialism and Capitalism. If i had known the meaning of these terms, i would have never been a Socialist. Tik challenged my ideology, which led me in challenging my own ideology to see if it passes the test of scrutiny. It indeed did not.

#1. Holocaust VS National Socialism

The National Socialist Trolls as i have mentioned before know the Holocaust did Happen. The only purpose of them denying it, is because they know this is a direct attack on the Marxist who say the Holocaust did happen. It is clear as Tik puts it, that the National Socialists know that Hitler did Socialise the Aryan Racial Collective by removing the Jews from Society. If Hitler did not remove the Jews from Society, that only means that Hitler was not a "National Socialist" and did not Nationalize the masses nor Socialise the Aryan Race as he promised. Hitler did what he promised and the National Socialist know this. And therefore, the Holocaust did happen.

2. Holocaust VS Marxism

The Marxist claim the Holocaust happened. Yet, they deny the ideology that led to the Holocaust. The Marxist Deny that Hitler was a Socialist and place Hitler on the far right. By denying that Hitler was a Socialist, the Marxist are denying that Hitler Socialized the Aryan Race and are indirectly saying Hitler did not remove the Jews from Society, which is a denial of the Holocaust. The Marxist and other Socialists believe the Holocaust happened. Yet they deny the ideological driver of the Holocaust!

Greywarden > The Collectivist Ideology is a baseless and stupid ideology. This is why the Countries of the world are doing so poorly. That is because of the childish and ignorant Collectivist ideology. One White person commits a crime, therefore, all White people are to blame. Same goes for the other side. One Black Person commits a crime, therefore all black people are guilty.

The Collectivist (Socialist) remove people's individuality and make them part of the wider Collective. Marx, Lenin and Stalin considered every bourgeoisie to be part of their class collective. Therefore, every bourgeoisie is deserving of death and are judged collectively by their class from birth. The Bourgeoisie are born evil and need to be erradicated. A Bourgeoisie would commit a crime, that meant all born Bourgeoisie were guilty. To Marx, Lenin and Stalin, you were born into your class and nothing can possibly change that. This was precisely why Mussolini's Fascism is so misunderstood. Mussolini was a Marxist who basically ended the Class War between the Proletariat and Bourgeoisie Classes. Marxism was way worse than Italian Fascism and so was National Socialism.

Hitler unlike Marx did not add the class conflict to his Socialism. But instead he added the race element. A couple of ethnically born Jews were part of the Bolshevik party and violent overthrow of the Russian regime. Therefore, all Jews living in Germany were planning to do the same thing, and that also made all Jews in Germany Communist and guilty for Russia. This is how Collectivists see the world. This is how Socialists see the world. They can judge you by association because to them you are not an individual.

Look around everyone. Most of what we see is socialism. We are trained to think and believe like Socialists. It is to the point that we ignore very basic definitions because we want to defend our ideology instead. I am 100% done with Socialism. I know what it is and i know what it isn't. Knowledge is power!

Greywarden > Fascism explained: Mussolini attempted to solve the class war by creating a Syndicate to look after the workers and their bosses as well. Mussolini United Italy under 6 State Controlled Trade Unions which were called Corporations. Corporations did not mean "Big Business" in Mussolini's era. Corporations were Giant Trade Unions as the Fascist were the Creators of Corporations with the Intentions of bringing the Italian people together under these Corporations in order to end the class war caused by Marxism.

The GreyWarden deconstructs a Marxist Black Hand's dissertation. Enjoy reading our discussion and tell me who you think has the stronger arguments.

@Iblegend > I respectfully disagree with the argument presented. The definition of socialism varies depending on the particular ideology or political movement, and it is not accurate to claim that one specific interpretation is the only valid one. Furthermore, the argument seems to conflate different concepts and historical examples in a way that is not accurate or supported by evidence

Greywarden > And i thank you for actually debating the subject with me rather than running away. And no, definitions do not vary, they are clear cut. Socialism is the collective control or ownership of the means of production or state control of the economy. And you haven't proven how the arguments conflate different concepts that are unsupported by evidence. There is a plethora of evidence for the murder of the Kulax and for what were the intentions of the Marxist Socialists. But whatever.

@Iblegend > Firstly, the argument seems to suggest that collective control of the means of production can only be achieved by a specific group, such as a race, gender, or class collective. However, this is not necessarily the case. Socialism is based on the idea that the means of production should be owned and controlled collectively by society as a whole, rather than by private individuals or corporations. This can be achieved through a variety of means, such as worker cooperatives, state ownership, or community ownership

Greywarden > I never excluded society. You are creating a Strawman. Public Control, State Control, National Control, Group Control, Race Control, Worker Control or ownership of any of these are different forms of Socialism. I never claimed they are all the same. But for you to suggest that some how they are Capitalism because some forms of socialism are different is precisely where your error is, and you can't find a solution to this problem. I see you returned to the Corporation Fallacy again. Corporations are not Private, they are Publicly held and traded. Private cannot be Public Simultaneously and are two completely different things. Private individuals are you, i and Jose. If a collective owns or controls our economy than we as individuals are slaves of the State. Capitalism is none State. How do you address this problem?

@Iblegend > Secondly, the argument suggests that corporations are public sector entities and are a form of state-controlled syndicates. While it is true that some corporations are partially or wholly owned by the state, the majority of corporations are privately owned and operated for the benefit of their shareholders.

Greywarden > The above presents a major problem for you. You just said they are operated for the benefit of their shareholders? If Corporations are traded in the Stock Exchange than they aren't Private. They are owned by Society which is the Public. You make it seem as if Public Ownership is the samething as Private Ownership. No, Corporations aren't Privately owned. They are owned by a collective which is Society not indviduals. Even the "Private Corporations" are not Privately owned. If you look into the Koch Brothers Corporations you will see that a collective owns them. David Koch only had 42% ownership of Koch brothers industry before he died. There are a plethora of Coprations bundled together with the Koch brothers Industries. By definition they aren't really private, even if the Central State weren't to control them as they are controlled by their own collective who are deeply involved in Politics and swaying elections through dark money.

@Iblegend > Corporations operate within a market economy, where the means of production are owned by private individuals or corporations, not by society as a whole. This is fundamentally different from the socialist ideal of collective ownership and control of the means of production

Greywarden > No no no, that is rubbish. The Private Individual does not own the means of production of the Market Economy. The market is state controlled which gives the state defacto ownership of the means of production, not the private individual as you assert.

Greywarden > The majority of Corporation are in the Stock Exchange which are Publicly Traded and State Controlled which in turn is Socialism not Capitalism. The Public owns Corporations. The Public Sector cannot simultaneously be the Private Sector. Furthermore, to conclude that Socialism is none Market is erroneous. Marxism may be non market. But in no way does Marxism define Socialism accurately other than being another form of Socialism. If a Market is controlled by the State, then it isn't a free market and thus not a Capitalist Market. You do not accurately understand the definition of Socialism. Just because a Market exists does not automatically mean it is a Capitalist Market.

Greywarden > Moreover, where there are Black Markets, that only means there is Socialism. Black Markets cannot exist in Capitalist Economies where everyone is fending for themselves. The U.S has a black market which proves it is a Socialist Economy. The Black Markets are the Capitalists lol.

Greywarden > But if you still believe the individual has private ownership in the U.S. Why don't you put this to the test. Buy a home with Cash without depending on banks. Then try never agreeing to pay your property taxes. Comeback to me and tell me if you are able to keep your home. You are not a private owner of what you are led to believe is your own property. Even Cuba is more Capitalist when it comes to property. Any property that are Purchased in Cuba are yours and you aren't tax for it. The property actually belongs to you the individual..

@Iblegend > Thirdly, the argument makes an inaccurate and unfair comparison between socialism and fascism. Fascism is a far-right ideology that is based on authoritarianism, nationalism, and the suppression of individual rights and freedoms.

Greywarden > You haven't proven that Fascism is a Far Right Ideology. Doesn't seem like you have read the works of Mussolini as i have been doing. Mussolini had State Control of the Means of Production during his Reign. Mussolini said like this in his speech in Milan and you can look it up if you'd like, "Everything in the State, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state." If you study Mussolini closely, which i am sure you haven't. You will see that Mussolini Socialized the people through their Italian Nationality. His Socialism was based on the Italian Nationality as he tried to bring all Italians together under the State. There is no possible way Mussolini was a Capitalist. Mussolini and even the inventor of Fascism Gentile were opponents of Capitalism. They hated Capitalism! Moreover, Nationalism and Socialism are one and the same. To Nationalise a business is the same as Socialising a Business. To Nationalise the people is the same as Socialisng the people. What exactly is the difference between Nationalizing the Economy or Socializing the Economy? What is the difference between Nationalization of the Private Sector or Socialization of the Private Sector? You tell me..

@Iblegend > It is not accurate to claim that fascism is a form of socialism, or that Mussolini was a socialist. Mussolini and the fascist regime in Italy were fiercely anti-socialist and anti-communist, and actively suppressed socialist and labor movements.

Greywarden > Actually they weren't Anti-Socialist lol. Mussolini tried to end the Class Crisis Marxism had caused by offering people another version of Socialism Gentile called Fascism. Mussolini was the man that put Gentile's ideas into practice. Mussolini offered Fascism as a third way between Marxism and Capitalism. Even if you are able to prove that Mussolini hated Marxism because he was kicked out of the Marxist anti war party of Italy for being a warmonger. You still can't prove that by default that makes him a Capitalist as he also hated Capitalism. You see, your ideas blind you from the facts that Mussolini hated Capitalism as well, and thus couldn't be a Capitalist just because he was not a Marxist.

@Iblegend > Finally, the argument suggests that individualism and collectivism are polar opposites, and that socialism necessarily entails state control of the economy and the suppression of individual freedom. However, this is a simplistic and inaccurate view of both individualism and collectivism. In reality, most political and economic systems contain elements of both individualism and collectivism, and the relationship between the two is complex and multifaceted. It is possible to have a socialist system that allows for individual autonomy and freedom, while still maintaining collective control over the means of production.

Greywarden > There is no argument that says that Collectivism and Individualism are Polar Opposites. Collectivism and Individualism by definition are Polar Opposites and that is a fact. The only reason why some socialist economies allow for some individual freedoms is because they haven't implemented full socialism. Individual ownership and control of your own economy is Capitalism not Socialism. You haven't proven how individualism can be one and the same as collectivism. You are dancing around the points I've made by trying to prove that Individualism can mean two things at once which isn't possible. And mocking arguments you can't refute by calling them simplistic does not make your case that Individualism can mean the same thing as Collectivism stronger. It actually exposes a huge contradiction with your line of reasoning that you can't resolve.

@Iblegend > In conclusion, the argument presented contains several inaccuracies and conflations of different concepts and historical examples. It is important to approach these complex issues with nuance and accuracy, rather than resorting to simplistic and inaccurate comparisons and generalizations.

Greywarden > Again you accuse me of being simplistic because i am taking definitions of terms at face value and not trying to explain away how Private can mean Public at the same time and how an individual can mean a collective at the same time. If you weren't blinded by the doctrines of Marxists you would be able to see how illogical your position is. You are not going to win a debate through illogic

Greywarden > As for some babbling idiots that claim to be on the right, yet defend Hitler's Leftist race based Socialism, Scapegoat him and even compare him to former United States President Donald J Trump who is not a Socialist nor has anything in common with Hitler. Today, i will be refuting your claims that Hitler was a Scapegoat and not a Racist. I will be providing evidence that proves he was nothing like Trump, but a Leftist Socialist Dictator instead.

That the media lied about Hitler is obvious. But definitely not as you put it. The mainstream media and Historians have lied by saying Hitler was a Capitalist. Hitler hated Capitalism and attributed its horrors to the Jews, which by the way is nothing similar to Trump as Trump is a Capitalist and is a friend of the Jews.

1. Hitler was a Leftist Socialist who claimed his race based Socialism was real Socialism contrary to Marxian Socialism which is a class based Socialism! References: Hitler, 1930 from Carsten, Rise of Fascism P137. Hitler, "Mein Kampf," P147; Hitler, "Mein Kampf," P406.

Trump does not believe in a race socialism. In fact, Trump does not believe in socialism at all. That being said, a comparison between Hitler and Trump makes no sense..

2. Hitler believes both Capitalism and Marxism are Jewish concepts. Sources: Hitler, "Mein Kampf," P198; Hitler, "Mein Kampf," P324; Hitler, "Mein Kampf," P348; Hitler, "Mein Kampf," P555.

3. The National Socialists suspended articles 115 and 153 of the German Reich's Constitution. This gave Hitler and the National Socialist party the power to Nationalize private property. This was not a free market nor was it private, as people had their properties stolen away from them by the Socialists. Sources: Text of the Reichstag Fire Decree, 28 Feb 1933; Reimann, "The Vampire Economy," Chapter 2; "The Vampire Economy," P107 Herr A. Z Quoted from Reimann.

How is this load of crap even remotely similar to Donald Trump? You have to be delusional to believe that!

Greywarden > Through educational videos from Tik-history. I found some very revealing points on the differences between Socialism, National Socialism, Marxism and Fascism. But what struck me the hardest was the real definition of Fascism. I kept using that word to refer to National Socialist and i was so mistaken. So, here is what i learned on Tik-history on the video named fascism defined. Below are the major points i got out of it. These are things i didn't know and i am sure will help many of us understand the real definition of Fascim as understood by its creators and coined by Benito Mussolini.

1. Mussolini initally was not racist towards Jewish people as Hitler was. Mussolini's Mistress Margehrita Sarfatti was Jewish. She was his mistress from 1911 to 1938. Source: Farrell, "Mussolini: A new life" chapter 11.

2. Margherita Sarfatti was Jewish, a Feminist and a member of the Fascist party of Italy. More than 10k Jews were in fact members of the Fascist party of Italy.

3. The Question is. If Fascism is a synonym of National Socialism. Why was Mussolini not racist towards Jewish people nor did he murder his own people? Why did the Fascist party not condemn feminist ideas if fascism is a synonym of National Socialism?

4. Mussolini's Government did not have Anti Jewish laws. Mussolini had to create Anti Jewish Laws after Hitler's influence to please him in 1938. Prior to that there were no such laws. Mussolini wouldn't have to create anti-jewish laws if fascism was a race based Socialism like Nazi Germany.

5. Definition of Fascism: You can properly call a Trade Union a Syndicate. Syndicalism means Trade Unionism. A Trade Union is a group of workers or a bundle of workers. In the Italian language a bundle of sticks is a fascio and Italian Trade Unions = Fasci. Hence, the term Fascism. Which means Trade Unionism.

6. Mussolini's Fascism specifically defined: National Syndicalism with a Philosophy of Actualism. Source: Anthony James Gregor, "Mussolini's intellectuals." P60, P80-83, P99.

7. Gregor Defines Fascism: "(Fascism was) the Totalitarian Cooperative, and ethical state - the final collectivist synthesis of nationalism, syndicalism, and Actualism." Source: Anthony James Gregor, "Mussolini's intellectuals." P99.

Greywarden > Hence, Fascism was Trade Unionism for the Nation of Italy!

Greywarden > Here are some very important things i was able to get from this fantastic video by Denesh D'Souza on the Fascist Roots of the American Left.

Subject: FDR and Mussolini.
1. FDR Admired Benito Mussolini

2. FDR Saw Italian Fascism as leftist and even more progressive than the new deal.

3. FDR sent members of his brain trust to Fascist Rome to study Italian Fascism, in order to bring some of those ideas to the United States.

4. Benito Mussolini reviewed FDR's book (looking forward) in an Italian magazine. A summery of his review would look something like this > This guy is one of us. He is a Fascist!

5. The Italian Fascist and New Deal Democrats admired one another.

Subject: Hitler
6. Two prominent Scholars at Yale D'Souza makes reference to. One is James Whitmen who Published a book called Hitler's American model. And the next scholar is Timothy Snyder.

7. Whitmen's book in its opening describes a meeting in 1935 of the leading Nazis who are in the process of drafting the nuremberg laws.

8. The nuremberg laws were the laws that made Jews into second class citizens.

9. The nuremberg laws prohibited intermarriage between Jews and other Germans. Allowed for the confiscation of Jewish property, and protected all kinds of segregation and state sponsored crimes such as discrimnation against the Jewish people.

10. D'Souza makes it explicitly clear that he disagrees with the Title of the book which makes it seem as if America was coulpable, rather than the racist Dixiecrats for racism in the past.

11. D'Souza refers to a Nazi meeting in the book Titled Hitler's America. The Nazis had a Stenographer present because they thought they were going to start the worlds first racist state.

12. One of the Nazis who studied in America said sorry, we can't start the first racist state because the Democratic Party in the United States has already done it.

13. D'souza makes it clear that every segragation law in the Jim Crow South going back to the 1880's and continuing through the 1950's and 1960's, without exception, was passed by a Democratic Legislator, signed by a Democratic Governor and inforced by Democratic officials.

14. D'Souza says Hitler and the Nazis imitated the model of the Jacksonian Democrats, as all the Nazis had to do is take the Democratic Laws in place, cross out the word black, write in the word Jew and they were home free. D'Souza never mentions that they took everything word for word. Quite the opposite. He says The Nazis took as a blueprint the laws of the Jim Crow South.

15. D'Souza also says Hitler wanted to compete with the English and the French. But he was out of real estate as the English and the french had colonized most of the world. Hitler knew about the Jacksonian Democrats who in the 19th century attacked the American Indians, kicked them out of their land, killed those that resisted and enslaved the once that remained. Hitler adopted the strategy of the Jacksonian Democrats and used it against other Europeans.

I don't think SoMee will permit me anymore space. So i'll continue later in another post.

https://www.youtube.com/live/f5slRBGv_88?feature=share

Is there No one sane left out there or What the hell is happening? Isn’t this just pure fascism from the goverment??
So in the taxfunded counter terrorism Act by the UK it is now ”far right extremism” to have deep interest in great literature, such as:
The Lord Of The Rings by JRR Tolkien, Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World, Joseph Conrad’s The Secret Agent, 1984 by George Orwell and the poems of GK Chesterton.
Works by Shakespeare, Chaucer, Milton, Tennyson are also in the list.

I would never thought that about China after those heavy lockdowns, fascism and total supercontrol. They let this out: https://www.instagram.com/p/CoDKrPauDd1/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

So now it is Official the big banks working with the UN to overthrow the people and steal the power in The Great Reset and Agenda 2030. WEF+UN= fascism

This is Absolutely insane! This is not some fringe teenagers with prideflags any longer! This is secret police surveillance online and a totally corrupt judicial system that needs to crumble! All possible becuse of the ones not speaking up against What is taught in school, or when you had a lunch break and these ideas came out from a Co-worker! This is EXACTLY What Jordan Peterson warned about 2016 around Bill C-16 in Canada! I feel like Alex Jones now , but I AM I THE ONLY ONE SEEING THIS INSANITY?? The biggest problem here are the bystanders allowing this to happen and you also at the same time wonder how nazis came about?? Your #totalitarianism is the worst since WW2 . Remember that when the tides turns. #fascism #freespeech #censorship https://nypost.com/2022/12/15/tonje-gjevjon-faces-up-to-3-years-in-prison-for-saying-men-cannot-be-lesbians/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wfacFhPsBY
Great coverage of Italy's new prime minister. You can ignore fascism, but you cant ignore the consequences of ignoring fascism. If you don't watch the video, you might assume im implying shes a fascist there, but I am not, i am implying her election, and indeed the upcoming resurgence of "right-wing" politics is a direct result of 2 years of fascism enacted aggressively by liberals and #bluenomatterwho crowd